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Poster: Phķc Sűn Reply Post Message Date: Sun Mar 26 16:03:27 2006 |
Subject: Kiếp |
Post No: 2857 Reply to: 2855 |
Mong rằng bạn ců thể hiểu English, vì tŰi chỉ tìm ra ūżợc bản kinh bằng English mŗ thŰi. Nếu ců bạn nŗo khŠc, lŗm űn lŗm phżớc cũng nhż lŗm giầu, mŗ tìm ra bản Việt Ngữ thì may cho bạn phŗm phu lắm thay. http://home.earthlink.net/~mpaw1238/id42.html M‚lunky‚putta Sutta Translated from the Majjhima-Nik‚ya Thus have I heard. On a certain occasion, The Blessed One was dwelling at S‚vatthi in Jetavana monastery in An‚thapindika's Park. Now it happened to the venerable M‚lunky‚putta, being in seclusion and plunged in meditation, that a consideration presented itself to his mind, as follows:-- "These theories which The Blessed One has left unelucidated, and has set aside are: - 1. that the world is eternal, 2. that the world is not eternal, 3. that the world is finite, 4. that the world is infinite, 5. that the soul and the body are identical, 6. that the soul is one thing and the body another, 7. that the arahant exists after death, 8. that the arahant does not exist after death, 9. that the arahant both exists and does not exist after death, 10. that the arahant neither exists nor does not exist after death,-- The Blessed One does not elucidate to me. Moreover, the fact that The Blessed One does not elucidate them to me does not please me nor suit me. Therefore, I will draw near to The Blessed One and inquire of him concerning this matter. Will ask the Blessed One to elucidate to me. .......................... If The Blessed One will not elucidate to me, that the world is eternal, that the world is not eternal, . . . or that the arahant exists or does not exist after death, in that case will I abandon religious training and return to the lower life of a layman. ....................... And seated respectfully at one side, the venerable M‚lunky‚putta spoke to The Blessed One as follows:-- "Reverend Sir, it happened to me, as I was just now in seclusion and plunged in meditation, that a consideration presented itself to my mind. 'These theories which The Blessed One has left unelucidated, has set aside and rejected,--that the world is eternal, that the world is not eternal, . . . that the arahant neither exists nor does not exist after death,--these The Blessed One does not elucidate to me. And the fact that The Blessed One does not elucidate them to me does not please me nor suit me. ...................... If The Blessed One will elucidate to me, either that the world is eternal ... in that case will I lead the religious life under The Blessed One. If The Blessed One will not elucidate to me, either that the world is eternal ... in that case will I abandon religious training and return to the lower life of a layman." "Pray, M‚lunky‚putta, did I ever say to you, 'Come, M‚lunky‚putta, lead the religious life under me, and I will elucidate to you either that the world is eternal, or that the world is not eternal,...?" "Nay, verily, Reverend Sir." "Or did you ever say to me, 'Reverend Sir, I will lead the religious life under The Blessed One, on condition that The Blessed One elucidate to me either that the world is eternal,...? "Nay, verily, Reverend Sir." "So you acknowledge, M‚lunky‚putta, that I have not said to you, 'Come, M‚lunky‚putta, lead the religious life under me and I will elucidate to you 1. .that the world is eternal, .......... That being the case, vain man, whom are you so angrily denouncing? "M‚lunky‚putta, any one who should say, 'I will not lead the religious life under The Blessed One until The Blessed One shall elucidate to me either that the world is eternal,... --that person would die, M‚lunky‚putta, before The Tath‚gata had ever elucidated this to him. "It is as if, M‚lunky‚putta, a man had been wounded by an arrow thickly smeared with poison. His friends, companions, his relatives and kinsfolk, were to procure for him a physician or surgeon; and the sick man were to say, 'I will not have this arrow taken out until I have learnt about the man who wounded me belonged to the warrior caste, to the Brahman caste, to the agricultural caste, or to the menial caste.' "Or again he was to say, 'I will not have this arrow taken out until I have learnt the name of the man who wounded me, and to what clan he belongs.' "Or again he were to say, 'I will not have this arrow taken out until I have learnt whether the man who wounded me was tall, or short, or of the middle height.' "Or again he were to say, 'I will not have this arrow taken out until I have learnt whether the man who wounded me was black, or dusky, or of a yellow skin.' ...................... "The religious life, M‚lunky‚putta, does not depend on the dogma that the world is eternal; nor does the religious life... depend on the dogma that the world is not eternal. Whether the dogma obtain ... that the world is eternal, or that the world is not eternal, there still remain birth, old age, death, sorrow, lamentation, misery, grief, and despair, for the extinction of which in the present life I am prescribing. ................. Accordingly, M‚lunky‚putta, bear always in mind what it is that I have not elucidated, and what it is that I have elucidated. .................. And what, M‚lunky‚putta, have I elucidated? 1. Misery,- Dukha; 2. the origin of misery have I elucidated; 3. the cessation of misery have I elucidated; and 4. the path leading to the cessation of misery have I elucidated. And why, M‚lunky‚putta, have I elucidated this? Because ... this does profit, has to do with the fundamentals of religion, and tends to aversion, absence of passion, cessation, quiescence, knowledge, supreme wisdom, and Nirvana; therefore have I elucidated it. Accordingly, M‚lunky‚putta, bear always in mind what it is that I have not elucidated, and what it is that I have elucidated." Thus spoke The Blessed One; and, delighted, the venerable M‚lunky‚putta applauded the speech of The Blessed One. |